Warm Greetings!

[Christine]

I appreciated your  insightful posts and even saved some to my own personal files...how about THAT?

Uhoh!  Well, if it's good, it's mine.  If it's not, I plageurized someone else.

We too, have no church home, and are quite isolated here in East Tennessee.

Where abouts?  I just moved my parents to Jackson.  My oldest brother and his wife are taking care of them now.  The parents and bro. and wife are all lifers in the Church of Christ. 

We are in Crossville, which is right smack dab between Knoxville and Nashville on the Cumberland Plateau.

When you are in Tennessee visiting, be sure to come and stay with us awhile. We have four bedrooms and three baths and love to have company. Would be tickled to have ya!

As to Church of Christ, what can I say? Oh my?  LOL

You will enjoy Pastor Cole then, as he was next in line to Pastor the Church of Christ in Dayton Ohio when he found right division! He started preaching it from the pulpit and they literally LOCKED HIM OUT of the church...padlock and chain on the door, for cryin out loud!

He knows JUST where you are coming from, and could tell ya some stories that would curl yer hair!

See you later gater...as I am wiped OUT and going to bed. Nitey nite. Grace and Peace to ya, bro.

[NewDawn]

Hello!
My name is Diana, and I am a friend of Kab and Glenda!  I really love them as they are the two who showed me all about the gospel of grace.  I didn't know anything about that until the Lord brought us together. 

I have always wanted to know Gods truth and always believed one day that He would show me. 

I grew up in a Catholic church, but always knew there had to be more than, sitting, kneeling and standing, LOL!
Fast forward to 1976 in high school, some kids came to campus and were giving a way tracts with the sinners prayer.  I sat there on campus ground and said those words.  I believe that from then on the Lord always had me in His care.

Fast forward to the the early 1980's.  I was a hair dresser who got into the party scene.  I didn't know alot about having a relationship with the Lord obviously, but I knew He was still in my life.  I have always had His divine protection from that time, because as much as I drank and smoked and became intoxicated, I never got in an accident as much driving as I did.  But I knew if He wasn't in my life, I could easily killed or been killed!  For that I will always be eternally grateful to Him!!!

Then in the mid 80's I became friends with another Christian girl who led me to a church where they propheised and spoke in tongues and how was taught to speak in the prophetic.  I thought that was the end all be all of Christianity and that I was in the "it" church.  So much was emphasied on tithing and how we dressed.  The Pastor of the church was so much into appearance the he would often make commments on exercise and eating right, that I would feel ashamed of how I looked.  Even though I always tried to look my best, I was not a perfect size 8.   All this time I was going to this particular church, I was never taught the basics of how to be a Christian.  I didn't know anything! I didn't know how to have a relationship with the Lord.  I was just taught how to give a prophetic word.

After several years of going to the same church, we left it.  Then went to another prophetic church, then went back to the first church we originally left.  This church had a "spin off" church.  It was called Present Truth Ministries.  In this place we learned how to speak in tongues, again, learn to prophesy, again, and learn to be "instant in the word in season and out of season". I didn't know what that meant! But I had to learn it.  So I gave prophetic words under duress, I guess you could say!  But I always trusted the Lord that what ever I had to do, He would be with me.

When we went to that first church, I always served in the children's ministry.  In 1996 or 97, as we attended Present Truth Ministries, I was given a word that if I were to continue taking care of the Lords children that the Lord would bless me with children.  As of today, I don't have any children.  So all that time, I thought that God was not going to allow me to have any children because I wasn't doing what He told me to do.     So many things we were told we would receive from the Lord, if only we did this thing or that thing because Gods word is conditional.  We didn't do all that we were told to do and the things that were prophesied into our lives, have not happened.  So we felt that we failed God. 

Oh I forgot to say that I'm 47,  married to a wonderful man who's a believer too! 

When Glenda and Kab shared with me about grace and mid-acts dispen, I didn't want to receive it at first, because like I said I thought I was in the "it" church.  But the Lord softened my heart and opened it to listen and as that happened, it all made sense!  I had always thought in my heart, that there had to be more to Gods word then what I had been taught.  Everytime I would get in the word, the first place I would go to was Pauls epistles.  I would read the gospels and OT, but always, always, went back to the epistles. 
The Lord was showing back then, I'm sure what He wanted me to read, but it wasn't until He used Kab and Glenda, that I realized what I had been missing! 
 
I love the Lord and even though I have strayed at in the past, I know He never left me!  I am so grateful for what I have learned so far, but I want to learn more. 

The one thing I have been struggling with is, what do I do with all the prophetic words I have been given?  If I don't fulfil what I'm supposed to do, will I not be blessed or receive what the Lord promised?  There was so much indoctrinated in my husband and I, that I feel like I want to move to this place, but if I do what will happen to me in the other place.   Does that make sense? 
It's like I was brain washed, but alot of what I was taught is still there and sometimes I still think that's how I'm supposed to live. 

I haven't mentioned alot of this to my dear friends Kab and Glenda because I really don't know how to explain alot of it.  And because I haven't spoke of it, it's mainly because my thinking is still divided on what I've learned in the past and what I'm learning now.  We're trying to let go of that what we were taught in the past and then learning this new teaching!  But I'm sure they and others can totally understand.

Anyway, right now, we're so into understanding and learning what Pauls gospel is all about.  We watch Les too and have gained so much understanding that I'm just amazed why no else can see this truth.

Well I think that about sums up where my husband and I are at.  I won't lie, we still struggle with things that we want to stop doing.  My husband likes to drink beer and I like to drink wine.  He drinks beer more than I drink wine.  Since I've also been doing low carb, I have put a stop to drinking wine except on certain occasions.  But I would like for us to stop completely! 

I hope that what I said doesn't chase anyone aways, lol!  But I just want you all to know a little bit about me and my husband.  I would love to make some wonderful friends and learn from everyone!!!

Sincerely, 
Diana

[Oasis]

Goooood Morning Diana!

I'm headed out the door for work but wanted to give you a "howdy"!  I'm glad you've joined here.  I hope you enjoy the study here and if I can answer any questions personally, don't hesitate to ask.  You will find the members here eager to help one another and we enjoy fellowshipping with one another.

Diana

Oh I forgot to say that I'm 47,  married to a wonderful man who's a believer too!

Well, whatayaknow?  We're the same age, so we mustagoneto separate schools together!

I'll catch up with you and the gang this evening. 

ybiC,
Kab

[Christine]

Heeeeeey Diana,

I just spent an hour answering your post and hit the wrong button and sent it flying into never never land...so I am very frustrated, to say the least...geeeeesh!

It sounds like you have been through alot to get to where you are now. Most of us have come thru similiar experiences with our given "denomination" and had to UNLEARN just about as much as there is to LEARN  It is a common experience with most who come into the GRACE message, so you are in good company.

The Charismatic/Word of Faith Movement has really gained momentum in the last ten years or so, but is very dangerous in that it has shipwrecked many a believers trust in God and many I know have never recovered. Of course, its NOT Gods fault, as He never promised to us all the things that they THINK He will do for them, but because they are untaught and unstudied they fall prey to the enemies trap. This is why learning how to study our Bibles so that we can KNOW the things God has promised to us in this present age can clear up so many misunderstandings and misconceptions. It is a  life changing truth that we all need to KNOW so that we aren't taken captive by the enemy AGAIN!

Isn't it wonderful that God leads us to faithful teachers who can show us the things we need to be aware of for our own spiritual health and well being? It is no mistake that Kab and Glenda were in your lives at this particular moment in time. They are being faithful with the message that God wants ALL of us to KNOW...so that we may REST in HIS finished work on our behalf and ENJOY learning how to let Christ live HIS life in and thru us.

I would love to send you a package of study material that you and your husband can look over together. There are a few charts that will help you to understand just where WE fit into Gods overall BIG PLAN, as well as several booklets that explain the difference between Gods program with  Israel  (where you DO find the sign gifts and miracles and healing) and Gods program with we who are the church which is His body today. Israel sought after signs, and God gave them signs. When He set the Nation aside, the signs and wonders and associated healing gifts were set aside WITH the Nation to whom they belonged. We were given NEW Directions, from a NEW apostle, for a NEW CREATION (the Body of Christ) with a NEW destination! As you study, these parts of the puzzle will fit into place without having to try and jam a square peg into a round hole...LOL

Since God is not operating under the PROPHETIC PROGRAM today (that was Israels program and was set aside 2000 yrs ago), you can in good conscience SET ASIDE any "prophetic word" that was given to you. Anything that God has to communicate to YOU, as a member of His Body, will be found in Pauls epistles ALONE. He has the words of Christ RISEN to YOU! We are in the age of "the preaching of Jesus Christ ACCORDING TO the REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY...." Rom. 16:25

As far as thinking that if YOU don't PERFORM, then God will not bless you or you will somehow MISS a blessing, this is absolutely NOT the case! God has already GIVEN you all spiritual blessings in the heavenlies IN CHRIST...Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

This GRACE LIFE has to do with what HE HAS ALREADY DONE, and NOT with what WE do!  We ARE complete in Him. We will never need MORE than what we already HAVE in Christ. The problem is that most believers don't KNOW who they are in HIM. That is part of the material I would like to send you so that you can start filling your mind with what God has ALREADY accomplished FOR you on the Cross, so that you can begin BELIEVING IT and STANDING On it.  "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."

You can email me at goinupru@yahoo.com with your mailing address, Diana, and I will put that material in the mail for you tomorrow, How's that???

We totally understand where you are coming from and the fact that it is somewhat scary to let go of one thing to embrace another. We have ALL been there. Think of it as a trapeze artist, swinging from one bar to the other....You need to let GO of the one bar to get to the other side. If you hang onto both bars, you will just hang in space in the middle. God wants you to trust one thing at a time to HIM, and let go...one thing at a time.

You already KNOW that God is not operating in the Prophetic Program today...so you will need to be willing to LET GO of that teaching and misconception. Those "prophetic words" were NOT from God, but from the enemy of your soul who wants you to trust in what you SEE, over what God has actually SAID!  We are to walk by FAITH, and NOT by sight in this age of GRACE.

It will all become clearer to you as you study and learn to REST in His finished work.

I look forward to sharing in this wonderful journey WITH you....and again, we are delighted to have you here with us.

Huuuuugs from Christine and Johnny

[The Paulinian]

I'am an orphan will you adopt me please? I am so glad I found you all...

[Christine]

I'am an orphan will you adopt me please? I am so glad I found you all...

Tell us about yourselves...I am from California and relocated here to Tennessee about fourteen yrs ago. How did you find right division? Are you in a right dividing church in California? We have Live ONLINE Bible Studies on Tues and Thurs evenings at 5 PM your time on www.paltalk.com. Be sure to download free program, pick a nikname and then let me know what your nikname is and I will add you to my pal list and invite you to the room when I see you online.

If you want to be sent the free study material we offer, please let me know.

Welcome to the forum.

[Oasis]

Howdy Paulinian!  Great username! 

I look forward to getting to know you.  I hope you jump right in and make yourself at home. 

Have a great evening!

ybiC,
Kab
 

[NewDawn]

Hi Paulinian,
Great to meet ya too!!

 
Diana

[The Paulinian]

Thank you all! You really know how to make a feller really feel welcome!
I will post something in the Tell Us About YOURSELF thread...about myself. By the way that's my daughter Tanya with me in the pic.

Again thank you for the warm welcome! 

[Christine]

Thank you all! You really know how to make a feller really feel welcome!
I will post something in the Tell Us About YOURSELF thread...about myself. By the way that's my daughter Tanya with me in the pic.

Again thank you for the warm welcome! 

Your daughter is really lovely....I thot maybe she was your wife. Ok...now tell us about yourself and how you found right division...I have been holding my breath here, and I'm gettin uncomfortable....LOL

[The Paulinian]

Thank you all! You really know how to make a feller really feel welcome!
I will post something in the Tell Us About YOURSELF thread...about myself. By the way that's my daughter Tanya with me in the pica.

Again thank you for the warm welcome! 

Your daughter is really lovely....I thot maybe she was your wife. Ok...now tell us about yourself and how you found right division...I have been holding my breath here, and I'm gettin uncomfortable....LOL

LOL...OK I Promise...I have to go I'll be back this afternoon sometime...
You can breathe now I don't want you blue lol...

[Roofdad]

Hey, y'all ! My name is Darryl. I used to be a frequent user on Yahoo Answers, but the atheists there are really hateful, and say things that could "make a preacher cuss". I used up four different accounts, arguing with them, and getting terminated, but I couldn't seem to help it. I love my Lord, and it angers me when people make Him out to be anything less than perfect, ya know?
Anyway, after starting what is now my fourth account, I kinda stumbled on to the threads at Amazon dot com. I buy movies and books there, sometimes. I don't remember how I found the forum there, but I did. I frequented it for the last month or so, and a couple nights ago, Christine was there, answering questions.
I have been going to a Pentecostal church that used to be an Assembly of God church. When the AoG started to bring the world into the church, the pastor disassociated the church with the AoG, and became Pentecostal. I made a post, when Christine was there, and I said to correct me, if I am wrong. She did. I was a little perturbed, as I said that I did not need to come here to learn anything. Boy, do I ever believe that I was wrong!
Just in reading for an hour here, many things made more sense, and a few things that had been bothering me were made clear, too! I had always been one to quote that Scripture: "Study to show thyself approved unto God; a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."  I NEVER REALLY KNEW WHAT IT MEANT!! Thanks, Christine! You made me realize that I have been relying on my obedience, and only relying on Christ when I would "slip up"! I can't count the Sundays, when I would go to the altar, and cry out, asking God to forgive me, in the name of Christ, when I now see that I should have been crying out in joy, THANKING Him for sending His only begotten Son to pay that price for me!
As I read here last night, skipping through the posts, it "hit me" several times, and brought tears on several times, too. How have I missed this?!?
I don't know how to thank Christine for being on the Amazon threads that night. I was about to give up on them, and go back to Yahoo Answers, because there are just too many hard heads there, all thinking that they know so much, and are so smart, when right division makes it so easy to see where they really are, and where I was!

I look forward to learning with y'all ................. I have so many questions ................. so much to learn..................... rightly dividing the word of truth...........WOW! I never understood.................. I appreciate any help, y'all. Really, I do!

With much love, your brother in Christ. Darryl

[Oasis]

Howdy Darry, and a belated welcome!  Looks like you're getting to know everyone.

I look forward to learning with y'all ................. I have so many questions ................. so much to learn..................... rightly dividing the word of truth...........WOW! I never understood..................

There is much to learn, isn't there?  It's so much easier to understand when rightly dividing the Truth.  Everything starts clicking and it's just one light bulb moment after another.

Have a great day!

ybiC,
Kab